Can’t say I was sorry to read this. Words alone cannot express my revulsion towards this woman. I will let you draw out your own conclusions and/or feelings from either the “article” or just the “headline”. All I can say is Adios, Chica.
Sheehan resigns as Iraq war protest leader
I’m glad to see her go..
I got an email from democrats.com wanting support for “this woman”, and although I am a registered democrat…..would not support her under any conditions. Good riddance!!! She did not honor her deceased son by her actions. IMHO
Good riddance to bad rubbish…
and don’t let the door hit you on the way out!
Good riddance is right! I can only think of one other person who so shamelessly dragged a corpse about with them…
In the immortal words of David Spade… “Buh-bye!”
Glad to see a poorly-used 15 minutes of (sh)ame finally come to a “slink out on her belly” end.
Happy Birthday tomorrow! Thought I should send this tonight as my memory is slipping and tomorrow I could forget.
(that happens when we get older, not that you would know that yet). I’m sorry to read you have a funeral to attend, but as you said it will make your day special with the “Guard”.
God bless you, and may you have many, many more birthdays!! Sending hugs to you – you’re a special lady in my book.
This individual actually said that the US is no longer the country that she loves. Well, Ms. Sheehan, IMHO, you need to exercise your right to LEAVE!
Not being American I can’t really comment on this but we have troops in Afghanastan and I know we have to stand with our troops if we like why they are there for or not.
The moral is linked to those at home who show they are with them and someone telling them otherwise only puts then in harms way.
War is an ugly reality but sometimes its nessesary.
It took her sons death for her to start this, why didn’t she start it when someone elses child was killed?
I hope she finds some peace for her loss.
Happy Birthday
First things first..
Happy Birthday!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I was bothered by her comparison to Vietnam. There is no draft. Her son volunteered for service. Any person entering the military is well aware of the volatility of the world we live in. I am sorry for her loss. I am glad she is moving on because she was hurting so many of the soldiers now serving. My ex is over there now and volunteered to stay until the end of August by choice.
God Bless you Phoenix you are one special woman and I am honored to have you as a friend. I am sorry you have to attend a funeral on your birthday. I am proud of you.
I am going to be away again. I will try and come back as soon as I am able.
Huggles and Love
Raggedy
Day late and a dollar short, but I wanted to stop in and wish you a very happy birthday!!! I hope you got lots of good presents!
june is a happy month, may it bring more good news like this! and may your summer shine with life happiness and freedom
I’m not sure I understand how she harmed any troops. Is everyone who joins the military EAGER for a war? Does it hurt some PFC’s feelings when someone speaks against the war du jour? Are they going to be sad when the war finally ends and the survivors have to come home to their families? (I know that seems like a stupid question, but the criticism of anti-war speech makes it seem as if that’s the case.) If so, I guess I’m an enemy of every person in the military.
I don’t feel like it, though, because of two things. First , the military didn’t begin the war, the administration did when it chose to forsake the pursuit of Al Queda and go into Iraq. I criticise the administration that lied to us, not the military. I haven’t seen anyone blame the military for the war (however, in some cases criticism is leveled about how the war is waged. When it comes to stuff like rape and murder of the civilians we’re supposed to be helping, that is warranted. However, that is criticism of INDIVIDUALS, not everyone there).Carlo is right that some wars are necessary (for instance, I supported the Afghanistan actions), but the one in Iraq wasn’t, and many of us knew that before it started. I just don’t understand how that offends the foot soldiers who have been put in harm’s way unnecessarily. I don’t HATE the soldiers, I feel bad that they’ve been put into a royal mess by a bunch of, shall we say, “inaccuracies”. It’s very unfair to those who put up their lives and trust their leaders to insure that that sacrifice isn’t in vain. It seems that people expect the soldiers to be angry that many of us don’t support the Iraq war, but they don’t expect them to be angry that they were sent to war when there were no WMDs, no link to Al Queda, and insufficient tools such as armor to protect them. Doesn’t the abominable health care they get stateside anger them? Or is the only thing wrong with this picture the fact that many of us aren’t smiling?
I also don’t think that passing judgement on how she’s treating her son’s memory or on her right to remain here are “humble” opinions. How does anyone in the world, in or out of the military, have a right to say how she should remember her son? When people say he supported the war and that she’s cheapening his memory, they’re using him as well. The difference is, SHE ACTUALLY KNEW HIM. Can’t the people who don’t like her just ignore her, as the people who can’t stand Ann Coulter and Bill O’Reilly are always told to?
Are we going to blindly follow every politician who wants a war for some reason into one because we don’t want to hurt a soldier’s feelings? I thought they were tougher than that. Are we going to laud them for fighting for freedoms that we will then criticise each other for using? If freedom of speech, for instance, isn’t sacred, why would we send someone to fight and die to protect it?
And Looney- this administration has dragged 3000 corpses around since 9-11, using them to justify getting an even larger number of American soldiers killed. If it were making us safer, I wouldn’t argue, but it isn’t. That isn’t the military’s fault. They were sent in the wrong direction by an administration that deserves all the criticism they get. The only support Bush has given the soldiers is lip service. He’s recently proven that funding the soldiers isn’t half as important as having his way. People tend to forget that in our system, the President is not guaranteed the right to have everything as he wants it.
I hope I haven’t made myself unwelcome here. I just don’t understand how people wanting an end to the soldier’s deaths in the wrong war started by an administration that is as corrupt and dishonest as any we’ve ever had is somehow “harmful” to the soldiers. It seems to me that the war, and the treatment the wounded get from the government after returning home, are both far more harmful than he fact that people are protesting.
Joe, WTF??? Do you purposely go around looking for trouble? OK, now that I got that out of the way…
No one said this war was wrong or right. This post was just my personal revulsion towards one woman. Everyone was invited to give their opinion. That is why our soldiers fight these wars… to protect our freedoms and others who may or may not be oppressed. No one asked for this war… it was not our decision and we were not given a chance to give an opinion on it one way or the other.
Our soldiers fight because they are told to do so, but that doesn\’t mean anyone has to like it, including those very soldiers fighting. If everyone was of like mind or opinion then it would be a very boring world don\’t you think?
So, I asked for opinions and I got them including yours. The difference is they gave a simple opinion and you, on the other hand, came looking for a fight… or so it appears. I am not going to stop you from voicing your opinion… nor will I stop anyone else\’s unless they threaten me or mine.
But, all that said… how can you be so positive that she harmed no one? You can\’t. You can\’t know what everyone in the world feels… you are not God.
You remind me of someone very close to me that feels his is the only right opinion and screw the rest. The world doesn\’t work that way. Not for him and certainly not for you.
Carlo is over in Iraq right now fighting for others rights to free speech, free lives and ending oppression. It may not be for the right reasons, but that is neither here nor there, is it?! If we are \”so blind\” then why would anyone bother to have their own opinion or for that matter why would they bother to protest at all. We can only blame ourselves. We elected them.
Everyone in the US has a right to protest. Not every country has that right. I can remember not so long ago when children were cut down in this country for protesting. I can remember that not so long ago china killed children for protesting in a public square. College age kids for both… too young to be true adults, too old to be kids… but yet they were still someones children.
We have fought many wars for these rights and many wars for others to have these same rights. What my personal bitch is with Sheehan is her choice of words. She has brought back very vivid memories of others who have protested and brought destruction on those who fought for their right to protest. I have listened to Veterans compare her to Hanoi Jane and I can see their points. I don\’t hold hate for Jane Fonda personally, nor do I hold hate for Sheehan, but I don\’t have to like what they say or have said or for that matter done.
Sheehan, still to this day, has not placed a marker on her son\’s grave. To me that is dishonoring his memory. He chose to join the military. He died protecting her freedom to protest, the least she could do is honor his memory with a marker.
Joe, let me ask you a few questions. Ms. Sheehan has changed her opinions and viewpoints repeatedly during her protest of the war in Iraq. Why do you think that is? She decided to sacrifice her marriage and her relationship with her other children for her protest, and now she wants to put everything right? To me that seems to be a day late and a dollar short.
Have you ever been in a situation where your entire family disagreed with your viewpoint, yet you stood up for yourself all the time? If so, did the fact that they were against what you were doing ever begin to wear on your confidence in what you were doing and affect how well you did it? THAT is how she is affecting service members that are waging this war.
Finally, I think that you misunderstood my comment about her exercising the right to leave. She said that the US was no longer the country that she loved. I took this to mean that there is one that she loves instead of the US, and, if that is the case, she should go there.
Finally, Ms. Sheehan has refused any assistance that the military (not the administration) has offered her, and that means that she blames the military just as much as the administration. My logic goes thus: The reason that there is no marker on her son’s grave is that she refused to accept the military marker that she was offered by the Veteran’s Administration. This leads me to believe that she blames the VA, and, by extension, the veterans themselves. Why would she blame the veterans? Because they were in the military, and she blames the military for her son’s death.
I am in the military, and that means that she is blaming me for her son’s death, when I wasn’t on the same continent as he was. I honor his memory and sacrifice, I respect his decision to serve, but I will not accept blame.
I continue to defend your right to protest what I do and say what you want to, however, I reserve the right to say what I want, because I AM willing to die for the right.
“The difference is they gave a simple opinion and you, on the other hand, came looking for a fight… or so it appears. ”
I’m sorry I came off that way, Phoenix. A discussion, perhaps, is what I’m looking for, but not an outright altercation. I thought you understood me better than that by now. I guess I explained what I’m thinking a bit too much.
“You remind me of someone very close to me that feels his is the only right opinion and screw the rest. ”
Well, there you’re just being personally unkind, and I did not do that. I didn’t say anything about any of you, just that I had a different take on the subject. I thought I stated my position pretty politely. Am I now unwelcome because of the way I said something, or just because I said what people didn’t want to see here?
Did anyone notice the words I started off with? They were “I’m not sure I understand how she harmed any troops.” That is a request for a further explanation of your opinion. That is not saying “You and anyone who think like you are full of it.” There’s a difference, Phoenix. I also think I was pretty clear about NOT being down on the troops in any way, shape, or form.
Carlo-
“Finally, I think that you misunderstood my comment about her exercising the right to leave. She said that the US was no longer the country that she loved. I took this to mean that there is one that she loves instead of the US, and, if that is the case, she should go there.”
I took it differently, as in “My beloved country is no longer living up to it’s stated ideals. It isn’t behaving like “America” anymore.” There are several examples of this since the beginning of this administration that I could point out, but I won’t as it seems that I would make myself even more unwelcome. I took your comment as another form of “America. Love it or leave it” which is a small minded idea. I apologize for misconstruing you.
I do disagree with the idea that she is blaming you by extension, though. I’d say she didn’t accept the marker because she’s angry at the entire system. I don’t see her as blaming every soldier. Pat Tillman’s family is very angry with the Army for the outright lies they’ve told them about his death. That doesn’t mean that they are blaming each and every one of you, does it? If someone I loved died tragically and violently, I would probably want as few reminders of how that death occurred around as possible. Everyone handles grief in their own way.
Let’s face it, there are – and have been- a lot of things that are very wrong with our entire situation for the past 5 years. I’m glad that there are people who will point these things out. What is gained by pursuing a policy that isn’t working just to “go along with the crowd?” Isn’t that how we ended up in a war that had nothing to do with 9-11 in the first place? Why would it be considered bad to want the soldiers in Iraq to come home before more are killed? I guess I just don’t understand the logic to it. We’ve all pointed out that the soldiers didn’t start the war, so I’m simply befuddled as to how talk of ending it would be offensive and demoralizing to them.
Stay safe, Carlo. It isn’t the soldiers we’re down on. We want you guys back alive.
Bye’ folks. I won’t bother you with my thoughts anymore.